Tuesday, February 01, 2005


A horrifying story about the "trials" for the Guantanamo Bay detainees.
These events are taking a toll on my liberal faith in government!


At 10:19 AM, Blogger romeotheBT said...

The problem, as I understand it, lies in that these men are not citizens of the US. Do you feel that they should be afforded the same rights as US citizens? The problem with this article as that it seems to try and muddle the issue. There is legitimate criticism of a sham trial, but by no means should these people be granted the same rights as US citizens. Especially since most of them are foreign combatants that have never set foot on US soil.

At 1:11 PM, Blogger Ricardo Grande said...

Actually, yes, they should be afforded the same rights as US citizens - the Constitution (a pesky document, to be sure) applies to anyone on American soil, and the courts have recently ruled that because of the longstanding (100 years) US pseudo-sovereignty over Guantanamo Bay that it is in effect, American soil. Let's remember that these are guys who were (maybe) fighting for the Taliban, which loathesome as it may be, is not a crime unto itself. I'm generalizing here, but my impression was that these guys enlisted to fight for the powers that be in Afghanistan against other Afghanis, and then suddenly were at war with the US. Certainly that's not punishable by life in prison. As for whether they are Al-Qaeda operatives, I say prove it in a (real) court of law.

In any event, I have a real problem with the US (or anyone, the world over) holding someone without trial (or with sham trial like these). It's morally inexcusable, regardless of their citizenship.


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